j_- here, AMA. (self.Philippines)

{Philippines}

79 ups - 19 downs = 60 votes

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362 comments submitted at 02:45:15 on Feb 16, 2014 by j_-

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  • anis9
  • 6 Points
  • 03:11:04, 16 February

Any proof of that what you are talking about on this post is real?

http://www.reddit.com/tb/1xw0gv

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 4 Points
  • 03:14:49, 16 February

Which one exactly?

  • [-]
  • anis9
  • 4 Points
  • 03:26:45, 16 February

All of it. Proof your story is real?

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  • j_-
  • 3 Points
  • 03:37:38, 16 February

Hard to prove without giving out my real identity, sorry.

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  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 04:45:13, 16 February

Although there are some stories I mentioned I THINK you can google. Especially the Yuchengo/Erap/MVP debacle since Yuchengco told the press.

Same thing happened with Soriano.

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  • Fischfreund
  • 6 Points
  • 10:26:24, 16 February

I don't know who OP is, and I don't understand why people around here seem to know. Can somebody explain?

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  • sincerelyshebeast
  • 4 Points
  • 11:15:39, 16 February

Basically a filthy rich redditor spills what he knows about prominent people of Philippine society, to put it lightly. You can start here and here.

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  • Fischfreund
  • 1 Points
  • 11:36:36, 16 February

Thanks

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  • Zhaosen
  • 3 Points
  • 10:56:11, 16 February

He is the 1%...apparently

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  • PTR95
  • 6 Points
  • 11:49:41, 16 February

Are there wealthy people who start new buisnesses just for the sake of generating jobs and overall helping the community or less privilaged?

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  • j_-
  • 3 Points
  • 13:05:49, 16 February

None that I know of. Lots start businesses in provinces but ultimately the goal is to get richer.

  • [-]
  • shitsquatter
  • 6 Points
  • 12:20:35, 16 February

Any dirt on you and your family?

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  • j_-
  • 5 Points
  • 14:25:43, 16 February

We have addicts in our family, I guess? We paid the Japanese and Americans during the war.

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  • bricbrac12
  • 4 Points
  • 03:37:44, 16 February

Can you give examples of politicians, businessmen or rich people that you know that are actually good and honest human beings? I think most Filipinos know that Enrile is the devil incarnate, but which are decent behind the camera?

Also, you said in a previous post that you were "Old rich". You probably have a street named after your family. Can you tell me more about what it means to be "old rich" in the Philippines? What do you people aspire for? Are you guys just content with spending your parent's money living in a studio apartment in Brooklyn? What are your hopes for this country?

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  • j_-
  • 8 Points
  • 03:48:24, 16 February

Rich people that are actually good...

JAZA is a stand up guy. incredibly down to earth. Does not flaunt his wealth (nor does he need to). Dresses simply but if you're into watches, you'll see his watch costs more than your car! Can't blame him plus he's a huge Patek guy.

Brooklyn? Haha Upper west/East or bust, my friend. Tan, Sy, Gotianun etc are rich, but they do not belong to the old rich as the old Spanish families no matter how rich they are.

Preservation of wealth is important, almost as important as family. Its not uso to just be a lazy bum and live off the family fortune. I can be content with spending my parents money, but do I deserve it? Thats incredibly wasteful and selfish.

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  • bricbrac12
  • 4 Points
  • 04:20:53, 16 February

Thank you for answering!

It's interesting that you only mentioned Ayala. I guess that means most rich people you know must be assholes hahah

It's also curious that you only mentioned preservation of wealth. Do young kids of the "old rich" not feel a sense of obligation to a country that has given them so much? How many actually do charity work or public service? Is the routine path just a few years partying in Europe or the United States then settling down to a cozy job in your father's business in Makati?

I hope that you don't get too offended by this, but do you think that the country would be better off without the "old rich"? I want to know your honest opinion on this. It just seems like a lot of you people got and maintain your fortunes off the backs of exploited Filipinos. Do you ever feel guilty that you can afford to live your opulent lifestyles because of a centuries old system of oppression?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not blaming you for poverty, but do you think that you have a responsibility, more so than most Filipinos because of your wealth and privilege, to change things for the better?

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  • j_-
  • 5 Points
  • 04:06:33, 16 February

To add, it is considered tacky to own loud sports cars such as Lambo's, Ferrari's etc. "Papansin lang yan. Although there are quite a few old rich with a nice sports car. Inigo was the first to get the SLS here.

e: unless you're coyiuto. Since that's his business

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  • biyenzama
  • 4 Points
  • 06:03:58, 16 February

How about up north? Singson and company? Enrile's illegal import business in Cagayan? I know a wealthy family who's in cahoots with him through that business. (For some redditors in central luzon -- they own a very large market in the central luzon cellphone business)

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  • j_-
  • 5 Points
  • 07:51:34, 16 February

Ahh Singson. I deleted my previous post regarding him. Okay house in Corinthians. The first thing you see when you enter his house is a huge painting of himself. How tacky can you get.

There was a time he bought a Fortuner for his daughter. Got carnapped while the daughter was eating in a restaurant. When it was reported in hte news it was Singons daughter, the same night, he put a hit on who stole it. Next day, it was returned.

He was denied membership in Polo despite Inigo Zobel being his sponsor. Doesn't matter if you have money or you can pay the 20+M fee. Tere are interviews, background checks etc. He was invovled in a controversy that time, the killing of his Metrowalk partner, the hot headed Umale. He's the suspect. I think he's a member now though.

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  • jack_ammo
  • 1 Points
  • 07:59:03, 16 February

is it true he personally cut the guy's penis? that poor guy whom one of his concubines slept with? :)

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  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 08:04:43, 16 February

Hahaha I've heard of that but I don't know if he actually did. Won't put it past him though! I have more personal stories about him but I'd rather not say because its about his younger children and how he abuses his position.

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  • biyenzama
  • 1 Points
  • 10:03:09, 16 February

I heard Singson and a friend own the Airport Taxis? I shudder at this conflict of interest.

I'm nowhere near rich, but I do appreciate you doing this. Your perspective is..fresh, so to speak. I'm guessing you lot don't really listen/watch the local news?

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  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 11:56:05, 16 February

I do from time to time. I read the Inquirer.

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  • j_-
  • 6 Points
  • 07:38:38, 16 February

Oh and, one of the wife of the playboy prince Jefri lives here in Manila. Their house is ridiculous. They actually have to imessage/bbm their helpers to call them. They have 7 gates.

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  • nicotoy
  • 2 Points
  • 08:56:33, 16 February

7 gates? Lol. I've only seen the ex-wife's one in Alabang.

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  • j_-
  • 1 Points
  • 09:00:20, 16 February

lol seriously. the pool has pillars, like the ones you see in olden times. the white ones, forgot what you call them.

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  • j_-
  • 5 Points
  • 07:53:54, 16 February

Surprised no one has asked about Jackie Enrile. He did kill a couple of people. I was told even Bongbong avoided him back in the day.

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  • taponlang
  • 4 Points
  • 08:02:24, 16 February

The Enriles are a blight upon the Philippines. Walang-hiya talaga. Do you think Bongbong would own up to Makoy's crimes? I'm pretty sure BBM would eventually run for President. I think he's a great guy, but Makoy's sins are too heavy a burden.

Another question: how does the rich choose their yayas and drivers? Is there an agency or something? Those jobs require a lot of trust and confidentiality!

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  • j_-
  • 4 Points
  • 08:09:33, 16 February

The Marcoses will never own up to their fathers crimes. They use the "don't blame the children for the sins of the father" a lot.

No agencies. Referrals from old, old helpers if needed, like someone they know quite well or a family member in need of a job. Our helpers have been with us for decades. There are background checks of course. Our family helps our helpers children, too. They do so much work for us the least we could do is pay for the schooling of the children, give them a couple of household items such as fridges etc.

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  • jack_ammo
  • 2 Points
  • 08:09:48, 16 February

i personally know an Enrile, so i won't ask :P and no, i did not vote any of them e.ver.

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  • j_-
  • 3 Points
  • 08:14:09, 16 February

Ever been to their house parties? insane mate.

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  • throwshizzle
  • 2 Points
  • 08:23:50, 16 February

Agreed on INSANE.

I really dislike one of his granddaughters though, she was always such a grade-A bitch to people who she didn't deem worthy to be here friend.

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  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 08:30:30, 16 February

LOL Kris

Nice orchard garden and chapel though. Crazy how they have a small army in there Morada home. hahaha

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  • throwshizzle
  • 2 Points
  • 08:31:35, 16 February

omg yes you read my mind. I was contemplating whether or not to mention her by name. Remember when she used to go by Kitty?!

ETA: I probably know you irl, OP

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  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 08:35:24, 16 February

Hahaha I was about to say we probably know each other. Kitty, fucking LOL.

So obviously you've been to the Bolkiah's parties?

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  • throwshizzle
  • 2 Points
  • 08:49:41, 16 February

I really cannot stand that girl. I hope she never sees this thread. She'll find a way to boost her ego with this.

If you mean the Alabang ones, yes. I can walk to their house from mine no sweat. haha

ETA: I know the other Laurels better than the royals

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 08:51:07, 16 February

haha no the one in Harvard :)

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  • throwshizzle
  • 1 Points
  • 08:53:28, 16 February

aww shit not yet then! :(

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  • jack_ammo
  • 1 Points
  • 08:20:14, 16 February

i'm not rich mate :) the nephew i know is the good one from their batch. i heard stories though.

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  • throwshizzle
  • 1 Points
  • 08:15:33, 16 February

Little tidbit about Enrile and Reyes's relationship: If you enter a certain known marriage counselor/shrink's office, you'll see a framed picture of the two.

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  • j_-
  • 5 Points
  • 13:03:35, 16 February

More more more?!

Remember the car napper Ivan something? Who got into a shootout with the police? Of course we all know he's not the mastermind. By no means am I saying he's no sinner, because he is but he was murdered. He stole from the wrong person. That person is Dong Puno.

Ooooh what about Hansel Marantan? The killer PNP officer? He was the one who gunned down 3 20 something dudes in Ortigas which was caught on tape! They're loko but watch this vid : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLwADwsSmIA

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  • taponlang
  • 3 Points
  • 06:06:34, 16 February

Throwaway account, of course.

Which one of the Napoles kids studied in ISM? I heard she was ostracized in one way or another because of her tacky stuff. Lol, nouveau riche.

What's your take on this whole Tuason appearance? Legit or just another distraction? How do you think this whole Napoles debacle will end? JPE just won't die, holy fuck.

How does the old rich make money? I mean, the Sys, Tans and MVP are relatively new players and they're pretty much public. Who are the Rothschilds of the PH?

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  • throwshizzle
  • 5 Points
  • 07:06:37, 16 February

Not OP, but I remember that she went to either La Salle Zobel or Woodrose for a while, and I guess transferred to ISM afterwards. My ISM friends disliked her because she was the type of girl who would try to buy your friendship through trying to be like one of those born into wealth, but she lacked class. She was also excruciatingly tacky.

I also got to meet her a few times, and really, she and her family always wanted to feel like the richest people in the room. I can't even describe how ludicrous they were in their pursuit of social acceptance.

Edit: A word

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  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 07:26:27, 16 February

Oh man, you nailed it regarding that tacky family. Political families with new money , the ultimate nouveau riche.

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  • throwshizzle
  • 2 Points
  • 07:44:22, 16 February

The worst is their mausoleum party on All Soul's Day. I mean, my family is here trying to visit my departed grandparents, and you're seriously trying to invite us into your mausoleum for drinks and free stuff. Please. We don't need your free stuff. The whole situation is just them trying their best to one-up Filipinos, and in a cemetery no less!

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  • j_-
  • 4 Points
  • 07:45:00, 16 February

Hhahahaha I was at the mothers wake. Gave away Chanel bags. Ultimate show-off. Its not like I can't afford to buy something in the same price range.

What makes it worse is that it comes from tax payers money.

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  • j_-
  • 4 Points
  • 07:14:25, 16 February

The youngest studies in ISM Jeane, Choy and Jo went to Zobel.

Tuason appearance, part legit.

As mentioned in the old thread, Soriano family made their money thanks to San Miguel. They also owns anscor, which leased Aman to the Razons, aviation etc. Zobels are the Rothschilds. They own everything. Water, Telecoms, Malls, Makati. They are the closest we have to royalty. Then in Cebu you have the Aboitizes and now in Davao you have the Floirendos

Also, a huge misconception in this country is that MVP owns SMart/PLDT He's nothing more than an employee to the powerful Salim family of Indonesia

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  • throwshizzle
  • 2 Points
  • 07:58:34, 16 February

Ahhh there we go! I haven't lived in Manila for a while, so I always thought the others went to ISM as well. They did try to get in with the crowd though as far as I've heard. Typical social climbers.

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  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 08:03:14, 16 February

I went to boarding school as well! Haha Jeane is close with the papansin celebrities. They live such a shallow, shallow life.

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  • taponlang
  • 1 Points
  • 08:10:20, 16 February

Can you and your crowd do anything to stop Willie Revillame? Another slimeball who got too rich too fast. Lol.

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  • j_-
  • 3 Points
  • 08:24:44, 16 February

Willie is like a hydra. Cut one head, a couple others pop up. Staple of the filipino masses.

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  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 08:11:18, 16 February

Hmm, sounds like you went to either Brent, BSM or ISM, no?

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  • throwshizzle
  • 2 Points
  • 08:26:54, 16 February

I went to one of the three for a short period of time before I left for secondary school and sixth form. I assume you either went straight to boarding or did the same haha

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  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 08:30:00, 16 February

Did the same hahaa

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  • yyedditt
  • 3 Points
  • 09:57:04, 16 February

Non-politics stuff.

Being already rich (and educated and well travelled and blahblahblah...), what else do you aspire for?

Tell us something really douchey you have done with your money/status (haha just to balance everything out dude).

Do you have facebook/instagram/twitter? Im not interested in knowing the handle. I just feel that social validation through such media has become the modern opium of the masses. I wonder if you subscribe, too.

What languages do you know?

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  • j_-
  • 6 Points
  • 10:22:17, 16 February

Haha i can be a huge douche somtimes. Sorry for the typos im in the car right now. I huess was when i didnt like the food that was being prepared for dinner i flew to hong kong to eat then flew back home. Yes. I have all 3

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  • combatron_legacy
  • 3 Points
  • 12:53:54, 16 February

question: can you be my friend?

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  • j_-
  • 3 Points
  • 12:56:01, 16 February

I don't see why not. Unless you're the type that just wants to be my friend just cause of my last name ;)

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  • combatron_legacy
  • 2 Points
  • 13:13:46, 16 February

but i dont know what your last name is. :) i just never knew what its like to have filthy rich friends. do you still have fantasies? like own an island or have an orgy with models? or have you pretty much done everything?

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  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 13:17:20, 16 February

Hah what I meant was that people go out of their way to associate themselves with me or try to be my friend just because of my last name.

Well, I'm still in Uni although I have way more than most people can probably fathom. My family owns a couple of islands.

Fantasy...hmm....Maybe a chalet in Zermatt?

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  • combatron_legacy
  • 1 Points
  • 13:31:45, 16 February

what are your interests? like if you're into books, do you have a library in your house? or if you're into movies, have you funded any? have you wiped your ass with money? if yes, was it a 1k peso bill or 100 dollar bill?

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  • j_-
  • 3 Points
  • 13:36:15, 16 February

Never funded movies nor have i ever wiped my ass with money. That's incredibly tacky.

I'm into watches and great clothes. Yes we have a library. Hold on ill be back in af ew.

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  • tissueroll
  • 6 Points
  • 14:00:13, 16 February

By far the most interesting thread in /r/philippines in a long long time

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  • purpleyam
  • 2 Points
  • 03:37:39, 16 February

Do you know any of the Napoles kids? Do you think they still live extravagant lifestyles?

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  • j_-
  • 8 Points
  • 03:46:22, 16 February

Jeane is/was the most extravagant. Have you seen her Hermes leather covered Cayenne? Cayenne is already a tacky car, add the Hermes leather. No taste.

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  • nicotoy
  • 1 Points
  • 06:20:03, 16 February

What would be considered a tasteful car?

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  • j_-
  • 5 Points
  • 07:18:16, 16 February

Simple Toyotas. The Zobels just use a Fortuner, Expe and an Audi S8. Same with the Aboitizes.

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  • j_-
  • 7 Points
  • 07:52:29, 16 February

Something not too flashy. The rich knows they're rich. No need to show it off.

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  • taponlang
  • 2 Points
  • 07:55:30, 16 February

Lol, one of the lawyers (probably one of the most brilliant lawyers of the Philippines) of my relatives drives a frickin' Vios.

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  • throwshizzle
  • 2 Points
  • 06:24:49, 16 February

I cannot agree more. I've met their lot and their flagrant display of wealth is incredibly off-putting, and they're downright rude at times.

She was using a crocodile Birkin. I shudder at the thought of the disgusting dye colored handbag.

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  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 07:19:29, 16 February

Hahaha YES!! I'm not a fan of new money. They have to flaunt their wealth because they are making up for lost time. First time nila eh. Plus they think they're better than your average Filipino just because they make more money.

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  • dybbuk68
  • 3 Points
  • 09:29:11, 16 February

I struggled with this in my teens. I didn't mingle with kids other new money kids cuz it was all about showing off, and didn't know any classy old rich families.

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  • pogiface
  • 1 Points
  • 04:06:06, 16 February

Have you been contacted by any news media to share the story? And if so would you?

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  • j_-
  • 7 Points
  • 04:07:22, 16 February

no. if this gets more attention other than reddit, I'm out.

I'm just sharing with you folks what I know.

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  • stubbornkitty1225
  • 2 Points
  • 05:57:23, 16 February

how do you know what you know?

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  • j_-
  • 3 Points
  • 07:15:11, 16 February

Thanks to my family :)

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  • stubbornkitty1225
  • 2 Points
  • 07:19:58, 16 February

Interesting. Is it mostly from second hand info or were you able to verify some things yourself? And on that note, are stories like this well known around your circle?

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  • j_-
  • 7 Points
  • 07:28:50, 16 February

Sorry but there's no other way for me to say this without sounding incredibly pretentious.

I come from an old rich family. Some are stories from my parents, some verified by me since I tag along in parties, dinners etc.

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  • dybbuk68
  • 1 Points
  • 06:37:42, 16 February

Why delete the old thread then do the AMA? Welcome back , if it is really you and thanks.

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  • j_-
  • 1 Points
  • 07:15:36, 16 February

Boredom, I guess?

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  • dybbuk68
  • 2 Points
  • 06:57:54, 16 February

What's your opinion on jajajajamby?

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  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 07:27:12, 16 February

Insanely rich. After all, she is a Madrigal. Bit too loud for me though haha.

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  • bicbic999
  • 1 Points
  • 13:36:42, 16 February

so her fight for the pamana is all for show or she just wants more money for her political career?

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  • jack_ammo
  • 2 Points
  • 07:27:54, 16 February

JPE. i knew one of his nephews way back but it was not he who revealed this.. is it true that JAKA was formerly owned by a Swiss/Dutch guy before he confiscated the business during Marcos' time and claimed it his own? i heard Marcos gave him the southern part to get his trees from. all the landslide from my mother's province (Samar and Leyte) were mainly because of his company's activities.

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  • j_-
  • 3 Points
  • 07:32:19, 16 February

Are you talking about Rene Knecht?

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  • jack_ammo
  • 4 Points
  • 07:38:36, 16 February

you're the real deal man! :)

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  • j_-
  • 3 Points
  • 07:40:20, 16 February

There's a great write up about him in one of the local magazines. Where he is now, how he was living growing up etc. Hold on let me try to find it for you.

  • [-]
  • jack_ammo
  • 1 Points
  • 07:48:54, 16 February

yep, read that. "I fought the law". i'm actually subscribed to it in Zinio.

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  • j_-
  • 1 Points
  • 12:51:50, 16 February

wait, I'm confused, how did that confirm me being the real deal? Just curious haha.

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  • sincerelyshebeast
  • 2 Points
  • 08:22:32, 16 February

Thoughts on the Aquino family? Intriguing AMA, by the way. I wouldn't trust everything you say to be unbiased, but you have definitely lent a unique perspective on many things.

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  • j_-
  • 4 Points
  • 08:26:27, 16 February

I really do not like the Aquino's. I used to live in the same building as Kris. Quite annoying. PNoy, the puppet of the older Cojuangco-Lopa clan.

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  • jack_ammo
  • 4 Points
  • 08:34:45, 16 February

Kris? when Boy Abunda was doing the Vhong interview, she was there behind the scene. my friend's child was there too. upon hearing the details, Kris went out of the hospital room and phoned his brother, "you need to get this guy (Lee) to improve your rating.." wtf

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  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 08:37:28, 16 February

Haha yeah. Little President isn't answering Lee's phone calls anymore.

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  • sincerelyshebeast
  • 1 Points
  • 08:34:29, 16 February

Not even Cory Aquino? How about the other Aquino siblings?

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  • j_-
  • 7 Points
  • 08:42:55, 16 February

barely met Cory. To be honest, my family doesn't really like Cory much. They've told countless stories of her throwing away valuable items once she assumed office just cause it was Marcoses.

She had no business running the country. Laurel should've been the President.

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  • stroud
  • 4 Points
  • 11:43:04, 16 February

are there anymore conspiracy theories about the aquinos that you know and can shed some light to? i kinda hate the way the media sorts of glorifies the aquinos ever since they think they liberated the philippines from marcos.

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  • j_-
  • 4 Points
  • 12:02:14, 16 February

Well for one PNoy is just a puppet. He's controlled by the elder Cojuangco-Araneta-Lopa family. When they lost the Hacienda case a few years back he got an earful in one of their dasma homes.

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  • taponlang
  • 2 Points
  • 08:46:08, 16 February

Does the rich choose their friends, or, are you guys confined to the same 1% circle? I can't even imagine your lifestyle!

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  • j_-
  • 7 Points
  • 08:56:40, 16 February

We don't choose our friends. We're just more comfortable with the same circle. We all grew up together, our parents have lunch ,same interests and all that. Also, it can be incredibly off-putting to people who aren't in our bracket when we talk about going on trips, shopping etc that costs 5-6 figures. It becomes awkard and it comes off as gloating and creates tension and ultimately, jealousy even though that is not my intention.

That doesn't mean I don't have friends who aren't as blessed as I am though. For example, I have friends who are dumbfounded with the fact that me and a couple of friends were planning a week long getaway with a budget of at least 6 figures each. Or to a lesser extent, not really thinking twice or looking at the prices if we like something / going out to eat at a restaurant since budget really isn't an issue. My last girlfriend comes from a modest family but it was tough for her to get me something since, in her own words, what can I get someone who can get anything.

Sorry if that was condescending/pretentious.

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  • taponlang
  • 2 Points
  • 09:18:12, 16 February

Naw man, it's okay. I've also got friends with the 1% and though I'm not barkada with them, we're good friends who hang out every few months or so. It's nice to hear from the other side of the fence, and it's exactly how you described it! They're good people who were born lucky. Before I met them, I had this preconceived notion that the 1% are assholes, but they're just as down-to-earth as any other group of friends.

  • [-]
  • jack_ammo
  • 2 Points
  • 08:51:18, 16 February

why did Danding choose Ramon Ang as his protege? i have info but you probably know better.

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 1 Points
  • 09:00:47, 16 February

Ahh that I have no knowledge of! Ramon Ang is cool in my book though!

  • [-]
  • jack_ammo
  • 2 Points
  • 09:07:18, 16 February

from what i heard, from a friend whose parents are probably from your circle, Danding used to own vintage cars prior to exile. he had to leave each of them to different folks/crony. Ramon if i'm not mistaken had a car shop from way back. 'twas only he who returned the car when Danding came back, thus the trust.. not sure about the guy's personality though. his children doesn't seem to exhibit that "spoiled rich" attitude.

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 10 Points
  • 09:08:31, 16 February

Ramon Angs kid? He's very, very smart.

Hold on mate let me upload a couple of photos I took of Danding's garage.

note this is a very small sample size. lots of cars were covered. http://imgur.com/XPw1Ypw http://imgur.com/Htgp0jZ

  • [-]
  • nicotoy
  • 2 Points
  • 09:19:27, 16 February

Upvote for GT40. Lol

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 09:20:36, 16 February

No love for the 722?!

  • [-]
  • jack_ammo
  • 2 Points
  • 09:30:19, 16 February

validates my friend's info then. gold for the GT40 :)

  • [-]
  • jack_ammo
  • 1 Points
  • 09:15:56, 16 February

Cecile. owner of Cake Club?

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 1 Points
  • 09:17:42, 16 February

Raymond

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  • dybbuk68
  • 2 Points
  • 09:58:47, 16 February

What's the numeric value on a rich family for you? Is php100m? 500m? 1b? Cuz $1m net worth excluding home value is already considered part of the world 1%. That's just around php 45m

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 3 Points
  • 10:23:08, 16 February

500-1b$. Will go into detail tegarding forbes estimates later on

  • [-]
  • dagway_nimo
  • 2 Points
  • 14:33:14, 16 February

Holy shit.

  • [-]
  • biyenzama
  • 1 Points
  • 10:12:04, 16 February

Wow, didn't know that. How did you come up with those figures?

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  • mysoisabitch
  • 2 Points
  • 10:00:47, 16 February

If some of the "old rich" know these crooked politicians(considering they control most of the media), why don't they expose them to the public? Do they benefit from one another? Or they just want their privacy?

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 10:24:21, 16 February

Then theyll use their power to fuck them lver. Read about yuchengcl and his pldt shares. Erap used lacson and the pnp to bully him and his family tl force them to share their shares to mvp. Or soriano Iii and san mig

  • [-]
  • mysoisabitch
  • 2 Points
  • 10:45:40, 16 February

OMG. That's awful. Another question if you don't mind. Do you think the "1%" of the Philippines carries enough influence to meddle with the politics in a positive way?

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 3 Points
  • 12:53:00, 16 February

Of course they have clout. But as I mentioned in the previous thread, they avoid politics like the plague :)

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 1 Points
  • 10:47:16, 16 February

Will reply later. Sorry for poor grammar im in the car hahaha

  • [-]
  • mysoisabitch
  • 1 Points
  • 10:51:32, 16 February

It's fine. Thanks for giving me some "other" views. Drive safe!

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 4 Points
  • 10:52:27, 16 February

Driver :)

  • [-]
  • mysoisabitch
  • 1 Points
  • 10:59:21, 16 February

I knew it haha. Side question: What's your dinner? :)

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 6 Points
  • 11:22:54, 16 February

I'm in line in KFC. I want my double down!

  • [-]
  • sincerelyshebeast
  • 2 Points
  • 11:56:35, 16 February

Who, in your opinion, is the slimiest member of the Senate today? (aside from Enrile, anyway)

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 6 Points
  • 12:00:40, 16 February

Jinggoy. When Erap was in power, I was in the same flight as him. He lit a cig in first class. The pilot had to come out and tell him that's not allowed. He tells the dude he's with "Puta anti-erap ata pilot natin!"

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  • sincerelyshebeast
  • 2 Points
  • 12:03:46, 16 February

Classy, that man. Anyway, have you personally met any of our esteemed Senators? Also, which would you rather fight: one horse-sized duck, or 100 duck-sized horses?

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 1 Points
  • 12:07:10, 16 February

Yup I've met lots! Enrile, Estrada, Revilla, Arroyo, Villar etc.

100 duck-sized horses! I could just step on 'em!

  • [-]
  • sincerelyshebeast
  • 1 Points
  • 12:16:13, 16 February

I'm supposed to be reviewing for finals but this AMA has been very informative, so what the hell. Is Miriam as outspoken and principled as she is portrayed?

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 3 Points
  • 12:54:27, 16 February

Yes. She can be intruding at times, but thats her!

Joker, not a fan. Barely spoke to him. Well maybe because I was fairly young then.

  • [-]
  • dybbuk68
  • 1 Points
  • 12:07:43, 16 February

Surprised it took this long for this question. Thank you.

  • [-]
  • sincerelyshebeast
  • 1 Points
  • 12:18:01, 16 February

I suppose you're referring to the slimiest Senate member question, and not about the ducks.

  • [-]
  • dybbuk68
  • 1 Points
  • 12:35:35, 16 February

I was referring to the customary horse sized duck q.

  • [-]
  • sincerelyshebeast
  • 1 Points
  • 12:41:46, 16 February

My mistake for the assumption, then.

  • [-]
  • dybbuk68
  • 2 Points
  • 12:05:15, 16 February

How do you feel about Kim henares? Specifically the effect on estate inheritance by suspension of tax free exchange rule. I'm surprised why the superrich hasn't taken this to the SC

  • [-]
  • jack_ammo
  • 3 Points
  • 12:08:31, 16 February

if you only know who his father is. j_ probably knows the story :)

  • [-]
  • dybbuk68
  • 1 Points
  • 12:43:40, 16 February

You mean her right? I'm referring to bir comm. kim henares

  • [-]
  • jack_ammo
  • 1 Points
  • 12:48:48, 16 February

sorry, typo. yes. was referring to her father.

  • [-]
  • dybbuk68
  • 1 Points
  • 13:01:13, 16 February

Let's hear it hehe.

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  • limewithtwist
  • 1 Points
  • 13:16:08, 16 February

what are they taking to the SC? It's not as if they're going to be affected by her rullings. If she goes after a big one and push comes to shove, guess who will lose the fight?

  • [-]
  • dybbuk68
  • 2 Points
  • 13:22:26, 16 February

Henares suspended a rule that gives people the capacity to move an asset to a majority owned corporation free of any taxes. Rich people frequently move assets to corps to avoid estate taxes and capital gains or income tax in transfer of properties to children. No tax free exchange has been approved since Benares has sat down.

  • [-]
  • limewithtwist
  • 2 Points
  • 13:28:22, 16 February

let's assume henares is really capable of implementing her rules while in her current position. That implies though things could have happened before her term and things may happen before her term.

If you got the money, you can have already have done it before, or even make it appear it has happened before her term. Again, if you have the money, you can just wait it out and fix it later. This is literally one of those examples of don't hate the player, hate the game. It's not an issue of morality but practicality.

  • [-]
  • dybbuk68
  • 2 Points
  • 13:39:49, 16 February

Yes It could be done before. But the wealthy constantly accumulate property and estates need to be reduced or properties transfered to children or grand children frequently. The point is henares suspended a law. It affects everyone especially the wealthy. There's is no assurance the bir will be back to its ways after 2016.it worries those with wealth, even smaller ones

  • [-]
  • waltza
  • 2 Points
  • 13:55:20, 16 February

How are you?

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 3 Points
  • 14:24:33, 16 February

OK sorry I left for a bit to get something.

Here it is ! http://imgur.com/0ELEia1 my night cap!

  • [-]
  • heypsalm
  • 2 Points
  • 14:32:04, 16 February

Hey OP, you seem to be rich and pretty connected. Throw me a briefcase full of money?

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 3 Points
  • 14:51:20, 16 February

I'll send you a case of Johnnie, is that fine?

  • [-]
  • bicbic999
  • 2 Points
  • 15:23:40, 16 February

with all of your revelations, I could use a case

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 3 Points
  • 15:27:48, 16 February

Any chance you live in Makati? I'll send you a couple of bottles right now!

http://imgur.com/z9GoBJz

  • [-]
  • jack_ammo
  • 2 Points
  • 14:46:24, 16 February

i'm sure you've heard of the infamous "boy mcnut", yeah?

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  • yotsuba
  • 2 Points
  • 15:21:52, 16 February

the marcoses and the enriles, uray ni uliteg chavit, are not old rich. jack_ammo probably knows, napekpeklan la nga aw-awan ditoy ilokos puon da dagita.

tinakaw da amin nga kinabaknang da dagita.

basically, in this country if you want to be rich start a career in politics.

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 15:23:03, 16 February

Hey man, not to sound rude or anything but... I understood only a few words in your post.

I agree on your last sentence though. sad, noh?

  • [-]
  • jack_ammo
  • 2 Points
  • 15:28:05, 16 February

gist is, they're all thieves. period.

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  • gmvancity
  • 7 Points
  • 13:48:31, 16 February

I'm not sure why some people here are excited to suck this guy's dick.

I completely lost respect when this guy when he said that he'd vote for Bong Bong. Clearly, this guy has wealth and enlightenment.

Secondly, he always says that the old rich do lots of good but don't advertise it. Hmmm. When I think of Bill Gates and all the good he does, I don't find him obnoxious. In fact, I am impressed that he's using his status to bring focus to issues and to also encourage people to support good causes.

It's likely that many among the Philippine rich don't have the intellectual capacity to actually tackle problems by looking at root causes and using their money/prestige to effect systemic change. Their idea of doing good is still of the patronage kind - money here, money there but not doing something beyond giving money to actually make a real, lasting difference.

And will the 1% actually go against their kind and interest knowing that sometimes, going against your classes' interest is something good for the Philippines?

As to his expensive trips - -that's fine with me. I mean - you're free to use your wealth the way you please. But I wonder if you even report the wealth you use as part of your income and pay income tax. When you use your parents money, that is income - - your income. Sure, your parents may pay taxes on their investments, etc. But when you use their money, that is your income. I doubt you pay tax on this money.

It is interesting how he looks down on people with new wealth. He forgets that old money was once upon a time new money too. And likely, if we actually figure out the beginnings of many of these old rich people - - -there will be some very interesting stories (maybe their forebear was a criminal from spain, etc.) In 2-3 generations, the new wealth he looks down on will be old wealth.

Also, I wonder what he thinks about smart people who make lots of money because of their smarts and hard work. Will he scoff at them too as new money?

As to opening new businesses, I doubt these people have the smarts to start new, innovative businesses, or fund super smart people (who aren't rich) to form new business (e.g., silicon valley model).

The problem with the Philippine 1% is that they are not a force of true enlightenment. Will these people actually give up 90% of their wealth and give it to charity and just give enough for their kids?

http://www.businessinsider.com/tycoons-not-leaving-money-to-their-kids-2013-8?op=1

Lest this dude thinks I'm jealous of him - - I am not. I am not poor. My parents were professionals and I had a good solid upbringing. I was not deprived growing up. And I also like to spend every now and then. But I also have my priorities and I have progressive views - views I somewhat had when I was in the Philippines but became more pronounced when I lived/studied/worked in the US and Canada.

To me - - the very small 1% controlling a huge chunk of Philippine wealth and a huge population - -more than 50% owning just maybe 1% of Philippine wealth is something anathema to a true meritocracy.

The only way to solve this is to actually grow the pie and grow the middle class - - -and also decreasing the wealth disparity. This means that somehow, the 1% will lose some of their wealth if a more equitable society is to arise from the Philippines.

I am sure this dude will do everything in his power to maintain the status quo. Of course, I am not saying that he should become poor. But I doubt this guy understands that if the Philippines is to become a true, modern country, then his class would somehow have to make decisions against their interests but which are good for the interests of the Philippines.

  • [-]
  • yyedditt
  • 2 Points
  • 15:04:08, 16 February

> I'm not sure why some people here are excited to suck this guy's dick.

Story of the Philippines, is it not? Social climbers all over. People are excited to see the old rich "among us."

Frankly, I think it's because we're also bored. I mean, this thread has been the most exciting so far in the history of the sub imo.

  • [-]
  • dybbuk68
  • 2 Points
  • 15:26:01, 16 February

He's just answering questions. Your irrelevant wall of text is interfering with our gossip and heresay. You have the buzz, we have an AMA with an unverified op. Deal with it.

  • [-]
  • quiquimasiquip
  • 4 Points
  • 11:32:12, 16 February

As a sex maniac, I've always tried to imagine how it would work out for me if I was filthy rich in Pinas. So yeah, what are the things that I could do?

edit: ok, I'm more of just a chronic masturbator.. but if I could, I'd be a sex maniac

  • [-]
  • throwshizzle
  • 6 Points
  • 12:27:13, 16 February

I was in Manchester last year for Fashion's Night Out, couple of friends and I got to hook up with male models thanks to our friends who work in the fashion industry.

Best sex of my life. I would not get the amount of hot dick I get if not for the fact this lifestyle has opened up a huge pool of hot guys for me.

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 3 Points
  • 14:26:20, 16 February

I definitely know you.

  • [-]
  • throwshizzle
  • 2 Points
  • 14:37:30, 16 February

we're probably related even

I'm curious as to who you are tbh. I think I'm a bit older than you though since I'm done with uni.

  • [-]
  • dybbuk68
  • 5 Points
  • 11:57:53, 16 February

Get the chronic masturbator AMA in the works

  • [-]
  • Lastikman
  • 2 Points
  • 12:08:24, 16 February

Poor guy let start a kickstarter for him so he can get laid. Three women at a time but one will be a she male!

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 5 Points
  • 12:02:45, 16 February

Two chicks at the same time, man.

  • [-]
  • Lastikman
  • 3 Points
  • 11:58:16, 16 February

Edit made me LOL!

  • [-]
  • yyedditt
  • 4 Points
  • 13:42:12, 16 February

I vote you for next /r/Philippines AMA

  • [-]
  • IM_HITLER_AMA
  • 1 Points
  • 07:08:47, 16 February

Who is j_- ? I'm a foreigner so maybe I'm missing something here LOL

  • [-]
  • whoisjeffd
  • 4 Points
  • 09:10:19, 16 February

He answered a few questions about the Philippines' politicians and controversial figures in a different thread just this week. I believe the comments were screenshot and another thread was made of it. He knows really interesting stuff!

  • [-]
  • mentat
  • 3 Points
  • 12:21:24, 16 February

This is one of the best posts I've seen in a long time.

  • [-]
  • dybbuk68
  • 1 Points
  • 09:08:34, 16 February

Is she crap? Or just stained with the ugly image of being an wrap supporter during his impeachment trial? I mean insanely rich people rarely have an ill agenda for public office other than "prestige" right? , or is that thought naive?

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 1 Points
  • 09:13:45, 16 February

Sorry, who are you referring to?

  • [-]
  • dybbuk68
  • 1 Points
  • 09:19:10, 16 February

Jamby. sorry I didn't notice my reply wasn't in the comment .

  • [-]
  • biyenzama
  • 1 Points
  • 10:10:52, 16 February

To add, why did she want to run in the first place, what does she want to prove or..?

  • [-]
  • averagePizzaAoS
  • 1 Points
  • 10:19:42, 16 February

Who, in your opinion, is the most extravagant and ridiculous among all the politicians, businessmen, etc.? The kind who makes your blood boil just thinking about them.

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 1 Points
  • 11:07:14, 16 February

I know people who wear 5000 peso socks everyday. Its their money and life is short anyway!

  • [-]
  • averagePizzaAoS
  • 2 Points
  • 11:22:42, 16 February

Thanks for answering. Many Filipinos don't even earn close to P5000 every month. This is just outrageous

  • [-]
  • Zhaosen
  • 1 Points
  • 10:19:50, 16 February
  • Beer of choice?
  • Liquor of choice?
  • Do drugs? what kind?
  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 11:06:27, 16 February

Blue moon

Champagne

  • [-]
  • Lastikman
  • 1 Points
  • 10:59:30, 16 February

Thoughts on religion? Is the 1% religious at all?

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 3 Points
  • 12:10:27, 16 February

Yup! A lot goes to sunday mass religiously

  • [-]
  • adobo_cake
  • 1 Points
  • 11:20:03, 16 February

Do you know any conspiracies/deals between certain politicians and religious leaders? If yes, please do share. :)

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 1 Points
  • 11:21:36, 16 February

Ah sorry I don't

  • [-]
  • 4cheese
  • 1 Points
  • 13:02:39, 16 February

Anything on Miriam Defensor-Santiago?

  • [-]
  • anyare
  • 1 Points
  • 13:15:10, 16 February

More on the Estradas!

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 4 Points
  • 13:20:32, 16 February

When Arroyo took over, naturally a team would audit the items in Malacanang. A lot of valuables were missing. They are now resting in a Greenhils home ;)

Jinggoy has his own fully stocked disco themed bar in his house. His kids gamble hundreds of thousands in Solaire even though they're not even 21.

  • [-]
  • dybbuk68
  • 1 Points
  • 13:27:52, 16 February

Is luli arroyo really a nice person? Is teddy locsin awesome or what?

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 2 Points
  • 13:37:33, 16 February

Yes she very nice. Can;t say the same about the rest of her family though.

Never met Teddy Locsin.

  • [-]
  • throwshizzle
  • 2 Points
  • 14:03:09, 16 February

not op, but back when Estrada was president, he would throw parties in malacanang and serve "good" wines and champagnes, but he was too drunk half the time to notice that his staff members were switching it out with the crap stuff.

Erap probably couldn't tell the difference between vinegar and wine though.

  • [-]
  • sincerelyshebeast
  • 1 Points
  • 13:30:45, 16 February

(This is a bit of a personal question, so I completely understand if you don't answer.) Have you ever felt bad because you were born to a rich and therefore privileged family in a Third World country like the Philippines? If so, how does it affect you?

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 4 Points
  • 13:37:11, 16 February

Of course but I realized that's how life is - pretty damn unfair. I lucked out by winning the geneticl ottery. It bothers me sometimes but, what can I do? I help out whenever I can at the same time I don't let it ruin the way I live my life since it is my life.

  • [-]
  • yyedditt
  • 1 Points
  • 13:35:59, 16 February

Dont you just love KFC? I love KFC.

  • [-]
  • stroud
  • 1 Points
  • 13:38:40, 16 February

Is there like a mafia like guild for the rich in the philippines?

  • [-]
  • pinoyOnReddit
  • 1 Points
  • 13:39:34, 16 February

Did Arroyo really cheat on her re-election?

  • [-]
  • j_-
  • 3 Points
  • 14:20:14, 16 February

Pretty obvious isn't it?

  • [-]
  • Lastikman
  • 1 Points
  • 13:43:56, 16 February

Did Snowden's revelation of NSA change the way your family does business?