Greg Walden of Oregon voted to shut down the government. Thaaanks, Greg! (walden.house.gov)

{oregon}

97 ups - 35 downs = 62 votes

110 comments submitted at 10:47:54 on Oct 1, 2013 by Gubmint_Twerker

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  • B_Provisional
  • 14 Points
  • 14:44:27, 1 October

No, thank you voters in Oregon's 2^nd Congressional district.

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  • centipededamascus
  • 10 Points
  • 01:10:18, 2 October

Tell the Democrats to nominate someone more electable than a Unitarian from Ashland with no experience in government next time. Seriously. I'm sure she'd be better than Walden, but that kind of biography just won't play in Pendleton.

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  • brokenspirometer
  • 7 Points
  • 02:07:32, 2 October

She's not even from Ashland, she's from New York. She moved to Oregon in 2009 in order to run for Congress. I guess all the districts back east were already taken.

The Democrats have given up on our 2nd district and are making no attempt to field anyone electable. The system only works if there is competition and choice, but the parties don't consider eastern Oregon worth the effort.

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  • rynosoft
  • 1 Points
  • 19:27:08, 2 October

> She's not even from Ashland, she's from New York. She moved to Oregon in 2009 in order to run for Congress.

Citation needed

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  • brokenspirometer
  • 0 Points
  • 01:36:51, 3 October

http://lmgtfy.com/?q=joyce+segers+moved+to+oregon+2009

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  • rynosoft
  • 1 Points
  • 01:40:45, 3 October

None of those say what you said.

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  • brokenspirometer
  • 2 Points
  • 01:45:13, 3 October

The "in order to run for Congress" bit is pure speculation on my part.

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  • abadoo411
  • 10 Points
  • 16:02:04, 1 October

Sorry. I swear it is like living in New Texas sometimes.

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  • Banaam
  • 4 Points
  • 02:32:03, 2 October

Boardman resident here. You? Also, I feel your pain.

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  • abadoo411
  • 4 Points
  • 03:23:36, 2 October

La Grande. It's a great place to live, but I've learned to keep my political opinions to myself in most circles.

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  • oregone1
  • 4 Points
  • 15:23:33, 2 October

Also, stay away from the jalapeƱo poppers at Mt. Emily Brewing.

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  • Coastscribbler
  • 0 Points
  • 22:32:15, 1 October

I kind of like Texas. I'm sorry you don't. They tend to be awfully friendly people.

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  • rynosoft
  • 2 Points
  • 19:23:49, 2 October

The people in South Carolina always seemed super-friendly, too. Then you get into a deeper discussion and find that they are unapologetic bigots.

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  • Coastscribbler
  • 4 Points
  • 00:06:04, 3 October

Really? All of them?

That seems a bit much.

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  • etherbunnies
  • 1 Points
  • 12:43:16, 3 October

Only place where I've heard black people, as a whole, described with the sentence "we just don't expect much of them."

Even Texans would've been appalled.

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  • abadoo411
  • 1 Points
  • 00:56:45, 2 October

You're right, they are. I was referring to political affiliations and an overall conservative attitude that I disagree with. My mother is actually from Texas.

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  • AspenSix
  • 9 Points
  • 18:32:14, 1 October

Screw your hatred and everyone else's in this thread. Oregon is a great state and I love the diversity of it. I can go to Portland to immerse myself in the modern culture. Or I can go out to Heppner or Burns and see the amazing wilderness and enjoy the solitude.

I don't think this was a proper strategy, but it might be what we need. Our government is horribly mismanaged and those in power generally don't help to fix it.

As for Walden, look at his stance on everything before condemning him for one vote. He is one of the only congressmen who is actively fighting against the patriot act and NSA. I believe he has the correct attitude to approach a wide variety of issues.

This vote? Who knows what kind of pressure he was under to vote this way. We don't know his reasons without him giving them. I think it's rather arrogant for me to say that he did the wrong thing when I don't know nearly enough to vote if I was in his position.

I'm going to wait and see what comes of this and make my judgement on his votes by casting my own.

Having such polarization between the parties is only creating polarization in this state. We're a great people and I think have a great representative in Greg Walden. Let's focus on fixing the problems rather than trying to cast blame right now.

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  • grdctrl2mjrtom
  • 8 Points
  • 00:14:10, 2 October

So if something is mismanaged, the thing to do is kill it? If my car's radiator had a small leak, does taking out the engine solve it? I just don't understand the point of it. And to further the analogy, the mechanic still gets paid for doing nothing while we're all out a car. This is only self-serving politics as usual.

I also think that relying on parties is what causes this shiat. Who cares what some bimbo tells you to do if they are wrong and you know they are wrong. You should vote your conscious, and not care about political power, and plays. That is how we should start fixing the situation: break up the stranglehold that politicians should be beholden to their party instead of their constituents.

So where are the solutions?

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  • AspenSix
  • -1 Points
  • 01:26:04, 2 October

A major way to help is to change the way that political campaigns are funded. This is a start. Our choices are to fix what's ACTUALLY wrong or to scrap everything and start over.

Your car analogy is a little weird. What does the radiator have to do with removing the engine? I'm not suggesting to gut it just because it's kinda bad, I'm suggesting it's because it's a lot worse than most people admit.

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  • grdctrl2mjrtom
  • 8 Points
  • 05:59:17, 2 October

What does shutting down the government have to do with fixing it? You don't fix something by removing its functionality. This shutdown is costing the government money and not solving anything. I don't even understand how republicans can call this a victory when the ACA will still be implemented.

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  • AspenSix
  • -1 Points
  • 06:04:49, 2 October

I wasn't advocating shutting it down, I was advocating removing whose there and trying to fix what's really wrong rather than trying to patch up what's already broken.

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  • NoTimeForInfinity
  • 7 Points
  • 21:26:17, 1 October

Well he's got so 'esplaining to do. Hopefully he'll respond to letters.

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  • AspenSix
  • 4 Points
  • 22:06:10, 1 October

I'm sure he will. He isn't one to brush off the concerns of his constituents.

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  • j-hook
  • 12 Points
  • 20:38:14, 1 October

There's no reason we can't be a diverse state without being represented by obstructionist ideologues.

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  • AspenSix
  • -3 Points
  • 22:02:52, 1 October

And my point was that a single vote doesn't prove that's what Walden is.

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  • EpicLevelBadass
  • 8 Points
  • 23:49:13, 1 October

He also voted to allow the NSA to continue spying on American citizens. So that's actually two votes against him.

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  • AspenSix
  • -4 Points
  • 23:55:14, 1 October

What vote are you talking about? All that I can find is him going against the republican trend and voted against the NSA.

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  • kidirish
  • 8 Points
  • 04:30:45, 2 October

http://votesmart.org/bill/17293/45795/2979/prohibits-the-national-security-agency-from-collecting-records-under-the-patriot-act#.UkuhAZi9KSM

Are you thinking of senator Ron Wyden?

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  • Anonymous_Ascendent
  • 5 Points
  • 07:15:02, 2 October

Wyden is a beast. He'd have my vote for president in a perfect world.

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  • AspenSix
  • 1 Points
  • 06:03:38, 2 October

You might be right lol

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  • EpicLevelBadass
  • 2 Points
  • 13:08:17, 2 October

http://www.reddit.com/r/Cascadia/comments/1j09sq/narrowdefeatforamendmenttorestrictnsa/

and

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jul/25/nsa-surveillance-amash-amendment-narrow-defeat

say that Greg Walden votes against restricting the NSA.

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  • zoidberg1339
  • 5 Points
  • 02:15:41, 2 October

Oregon has two Democratic senators.

Oregon has four Democratic house reps and only one Republican rep.

Geographically, at least half of the state leans conservative. Is it so unacceptable that they are represented by a whopping 1/7th of our Congressional delegation?

I like to think we're a fairly tolerant state. I like to think we're one of the most tolerant states in the Union. But some of you here are beginning to make me reconsider this.

Can we agree to let some of our fellow Oregonians be represented (at least somewhat) accurately without scorn?

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  • AspenSix
  • 2 Points
  • 02:48:33, 2 October

Thank you for being reasonable. I think that's the minimum anyone should have to talk politics. Otherwise it's just a shouting match where everyone's wrong.

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  • grantswishes
  • 0 Points
  • 15:27:32, 2 October

No. I don't like the way repugs think.

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  • zoidberg1339
  • 2 Points
  • 21:47:04, 2 October

And they don't like how you think, so I guess we're at an impasse.

Is any attempt at getting along too much to ask?

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  • grantswishes
  • -1 Points
  • 21:55:12, 2 October

Not really. I represent the majority. Its just a waiting game now. 2014 midterms are going to be the swan song for the first batch of Tea-tards after this shutdown....only to purge the rest in 2016.

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  • zoidberg1339
  • 2 Points
  • 09:46:12, 3 October

I do not believe that you represent the majority of Oregonians, because I could not stand living here if you did.

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  • whistledink
  • -6 Points
  • 18:42:28, 1 October

A voice of reason in a sea of ignorant, misdirected vitriol. I'd wager those spewing the hate have no clue what this shutdown is really about.

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  • AspenSix
  • 5 Points
  • 18:45:59, 1 October

What do you think it's about?

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  • whistledink
  • -1 Points
  • 18:50:33, 1 October

Honestly, far more than I want to type on my phone sitting in the Dr waiting room. Corporate interests, partisan politics, gerrymandering, and egotism are a couple issues here.

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  • AspenSix
  • 2 Points
  • 18:57:13, 1 October

Aren't those essentially the problems that we always have?

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  • whistledink
  • 1 Points
  • 19:07:17, 1 October

Sure, and nearly every other nation with a similar form of government, as well. However, it's coming to a head, don't you think? Our last several congresses have been increasingly crippled by it. I'm not the least bit surprised by current developments. In fact, it may be for the best, finally initiating some action to reverse the damage, but I'm a bit of an idealist. More likely, both parties will just use this for more mudslinging fuel and things will carry on as usual.

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  • AspenSix
  • 1 Points
  • 19:12:08, 1 October

It's funny you took the words right out of my mouth. I agree completely.

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  • racoonpeople
  • 5 Points
  • 17:16:20, 1 October

East of the Cascades might as well be Idaho.

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  • Banaam
  • 4 Points
  • 02:31:37, 2 October

Fuck you, that's more of an insult than anyone (not from Idaho) deserves.

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  • Banaam
  • 2 Points
  • 02:25:19, 2 October

Don't thank us all, I didn't vote for that fucker, he's consistently let me down for a long while.