After telling someone on /r/feminism to "man up" (livememe.com)

6440 ups - 4301 downs = 2139 votes

433 comments submitted at 18:18:29 on Oct 24, 2013 by Endless_road

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  • iUseThis2DownVote
  • 109 Points
  • 18:57:17, 24 October

Who cares what feminists think anyway. They're all just a bunch of cackling hens on perpetual periods.

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  • AIMMOTH
  • 9 Points
  • 08:33:13, 25 October

Most people are feminist actually. In sweden all swedish politicans are feminist. Aren't you?

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  • BalsackTBaghard
  • -3 Points
  • 10:52:19, 25 October

I'm not in Sweden, thank fuck for that.

And about "most people are feminists", yeah, I need a source on that.

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  • poor_yorick
  • 11 Points
  • 06:58:05, 25 October

"Cackling hens on perpetual periods"? Did I just take a trip back to 1965? We did this already, guys.

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  • Pawn0
  • 89 Points
  • 20:57:18, 24 October

I like to oppress them and treat each downvote as them bowing down.

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  • FLAMINGCUMBOX
  • -1 Points
  • 08:01:12, 25 October

Dear feminists,

Please put down your Internet. It is literally oppressing you.

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  • Lonelan
  • -10 Points
  • 02:18:39, 25 October

It's proof that they want to go down on you

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  • Pawn0
  • -11 Points
  • 02:22:12, 25 October

a man can dream. so much lesbian mouth, like damn Id die.

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  • 420WeedGoku
  • 17 Points
  • 00:24:16, 25 October

My le good sire, that is some epic logic ftw. I tip my fedora to you.

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  • [deleted]
  • -4 Points
  • 05:42:45, 25 October

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  • clearlynotlordnougat
  • -1 Points
  • 21:24:38, 24 October

That's an insult to cackling hens.

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  • [deleted]
  • -4 Points
  • 23:11:51, 24 October

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  • purdster83
  • 19 Points
  • 23:41:19, 24 October

Let's check the reader board, shall we? Yep. Mm hmm. No one gives a shit about SRS.

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  • lM_NOT_SORRY
  • 2 Points
  • 00:29:39, 25 October

They're already here.

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  • Lillith_Lovelace
  • -26 Points
  • 23:12:37, 24 October

You my dear are very right, I personally like that males are dominant (female here) and think that these feminists are over reacting. I like to cook and clean and be a mother, but I also work because my husband can't. It's a woman's place to care for her family in any way possible. If this offends anyone, I am not sorry, this is my belief, no one else has to believe it. I love my husband and my sons. I hope that my boys marry women that will be good house wives with hearts of gold.

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  • gbimmer
  • 12 Points
  • 23:37:15, 24 October

http://www.gifsforum.com/images/image/not%20sure%20if%20serious/grand/notsureifserious8.jpg

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  • Lillith_Lovelace
  • -4 Points
  • 23:48:23, 24 October

I am dead serious. You don't see dads in nature nursing babies, aside from sea horses, the female rule in the natural order of things is to take care of the nest and rear young.

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  • swindlerrzz
  • 9 Points
  • 01:31:25, 25 October

This is a hilariously bad argument on so many levels.

According to you, you can't raise children unless you can lactate. And then we've got the classic naturalistic fallacy. 'If it happens in nature, it is right.'

You should take a time machine back to the 1950s I think you would love it there.

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  • Lillith_Lovelace
  • -2 Points
  • 02:26:12, 25 October

I love the fifties, their clothes were cute and the conservative view point was awesome!!!

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  • Diredoe
  • 5 Points
  • 01:19:51, 25 October

Absolutely. Males of the species never take over the role of raising the young, and that's way catfish, marsupial frogs, fighting fish, rhea, sandpipers, emperor penguins, cockroaches, giant water bugs, pointy-headed frogs, emus, jacama, phalaropes, and sucker fish don't exist.

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  • gbimmer
  • 6 Points
  • 00:11:23, 25 October

I honestly couldn't tell. So many SRS'ers in here...

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  • Lillith_Lovelace
  • -3 Points
  • 00:30:18, 25 October

I sometimes will use sarcasm, but mostly inn face to face because I can sound very cruel. I try to stick to nice.

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  • Soltheron
  • 8 Points
  • 00:32:14, 25 October

> You don't see dads in nature nursing babies

I still don't think you're serious, but in case someone is actually clueless enough to start believing your nonsense I'd just like to say that this statement is extremely false.

Humans are actually a very good example of dads in nature nursing babies; it's one of the examples of our more monogamous instincts.

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  • rockoman100
  • 20 Points
  • 23:33:46, 24 October

If that's your belief then you have every right to live according to it, but to impose it as the "correct" way for society to function is asinine.

Edit: She has since edited her comment to come across as more reasonable.

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  • TheFallingPiano
  • 4 Points
  • 23:55:40, 24 October

>but to impose it as the "correct" way for society to function is asinine.

Yeah, she's not.

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  • rockoman100
  • 14 Points
  • 23:58:19, 24 October

She edited her post to be a little more lenient, but the line...

>It's a woman's place to care for her family in any way possible.

...seems like it's still being kind of objectively imposed.

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  • TheFallingPiano
  • -1 Points
  • 00:05:01, 25 October

No, there's a pretty big difference between having an opinion that you think is correct, and forcing other people to have that opinion, and to act in accordance with it.

Like, she could have that opinion, and advocate for it, and tell people how great it is, but unless she actually forces people who disagree with her to act that way it's not being imposed.

And, really, do we want to say that caring for ones family is a bad thing? I mean, it just isn't, and I think that objectively that is a perfectly sound position to maintain. Hell, what's wrong with advocating that mothers care for their children? Absolutely nothing, that's what. And in terms of enforcing it, the government does force parents to care for their children, and I don't think that's wrong.

Now, if she were to say, "women should only have children at the expense of other ambitions" that would be silly, but what she's said, as she's said it, isn't controversial at all.

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  • rockoman100
  • 3 Points
  • 00:11:03, 25 October

I never implied that women shouldn't stay home to raise a family. If that's what someone wants to do then go for it. I just don't think it should be expected for women to do that. I may have misconstrued what she was trying to say, but it seemed at first like she held that expectation of all women.

After she edited her post it became more clear that this is not what she meant.

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  • TheFallingPiano
  • -3 Points
  • 00:19:52, 25 October

>I just don't think it should be expected for women to do that.

Meh, look, if you have a kid, I think you should raise kid, and make it your top priority, man woman or whatever. But like I was saying, you shouldn't simply have a kid if you want to be a -- I don't know -- professional cliff diver, because motherhood is some kind of duty of women.

I think we are on the same page, you and I.

Edit: TIL that the people of reddit don't think that their children should be their top priority. Well, I guess the future is fucked you selfish assholes.

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  • Lillith_Lovelace
  • -2 Points
  • 23:52:27, 24 October

There is no "correct" way, only what each individual chooses. Isn't that what sets us aside from other creatures, our will to choose? So why should any group our other person decide what is the "correct" way to do it. I just do what I am supposed to do to ensure my children have a happy healthy life, My sons will always know who is supposed to nurture them and who will teach them to hunt. The men in my family feed us, so my sons will learn to provide while their wives nest.

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  • redbeardosanchez
  • -4 Points
  • 00:10:10, 25 October

Not sure why you're being upvoted, everyone already stated they hate feminists.

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  • rockoman100
  • 8 Points
  • 00:16:02, 25 October

Because there are two distinct definitions of feminist that are in conflict here.

The "feminists" everyone hates: Women acting like men are evil, acting superior, and pulling stupid public stunts

The "feminists" that get upvotes: Reasonable people who believe women are equal.

The latter is the core definition of feminism, and it's pretty basic. Unfortunately, that definition has been tainted by the actions of crazies.

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  • redbeardosanchez
  • 6 Points
  • 00:41:55, 25 October

Crazies that you'd be hard pressed to find off the Internet. It's like /r/atheism and /r/srs yeah they suck, oh and suck real bad, but it's not a true reflection of reality. Everyone quick to jump on these people saying stupid shit on the Internet, but the echo chamber isn't that different as the circlejerks on /r/cringe, /r/politics, or any meta sub (SRD). Everyone is quick to point out how morally superior they are to a single commenter on a web forum, but these "angry feminists" I've never met outside the Internet.

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  • MagmaiKH
  • -6 Points
  • 00:51:28, 25 October

The later is not the core of feminism.

Nothing in the feminist movement was ever about "equality". It was, is, and always has been about the further transfer of wealth and power from men to women.

Except for a few decades in the USA around the turn of the century, women have always had more rights and more privileges than men. Elsewhere in the world this was still true even then. It was only an anomaly in the United States because of the 14th amendment passed in 1868. No where else on Earth did the common man have such legal political power and until 1868 they didn't have it in the US either. This was the only location and period of history where men had more rights than women and that ended in 1920.

In order to validate the claims made by feminist, you have to compare the common women to the noble man.

For any given limitation or restriction placed on women there are compensatory limitations and obligations that men had and in most cases continue to carry on behalf of women. The best example of which is dowry law, so derided by feminist, the purpose of which is to automatically grant legal ownership of a deceased man's property to a woman (e.g. his wife/widow). This law persist today. There is no such law for men. It can matter in divorce.

The oft quoted glass-ceiling is of much less significance than the glass-cellar. Men die routinely, done so for millennia, so that women may live more carefree lives.

As long as the grotesque inequality between the sexes remains and as long as laws, policy, and culture remain that value the lives of men less than the lives of women there is no reason what-so-ever to concern ourselves with the banal of feminism. They already have far, far more than we do. Enough.

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  • BigFatBaldLoser
  • -7 Points
  • 00:20:30, 25 October

The problem is that young women are encouraged to dirty whores and being a lady is uncool.

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  • LifeIsLudicrous
  • -2 Points
  • 01:15:08, 25 October

Damn good thing she didn't / can't do what you're suggesting she's doing.

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  • rockoman100
  • 4 Points
  • 01:19:17, 25 October

As I explained in another comment, she has since edited her comment to be more reasonable. I've edited this to my original comment now.

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  • swindlerrzz
  • 6 Points
  • 01:33:30, 25 October

Ugh. Sorry that you've internalized patriarchy to such a high degree.

This one's a goner. Call it.

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  • CrackheadHamster
  • 2 Points
  • 00:29:22, 25 October

everyone hates feminists but this woman gets downvoted? can someone explain?

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  • Lillith_Lovelace
  • -1 Points
  • 00:40:16, 25 October

It is because my opinion is not the same. And for some reason no one believes that I live my life this way. My assumption is that good things are questioned and bad things are accepted as a fact of life.

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  • LifeIsLudicrous
  • -1 Points
  • 01:28:06, 25 October

I believe you. And I can tell from the way you write that you are mature enough to understand that down votes are meaningless (as are upvotes). You sound awesome.

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  • aaxxsed
  • -1 Points
  • 01:25:30, 25 October

Not all anti-feminists are tradcons.

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  • SS4james
  • -2 Points
  • 23:57:29, 24 October

I support you, downvoters can go to hell if they don't like your viewpoint.

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  • Lillith_Lovelace
  • 2 Points
  • 00:07:18, 25 October

They don't bother me, it's the internet, people always have something to express. Let them do what they want. I have a good life, I hope that they all are happy in theirs as well.

A little more info about myself...I am not Christian, I also do the hunting in my house due to my husband's disability, and I firmly disagree with the welfare system. I carry no political stance and believe that first impressions and appearance mean a lot.

Lets see how many pitchforks come out now.

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  • SS4james
  • 0 Points
  • 00:10:39, 25 October

Well, I think the welfare system has an important purpose, but we don't need to get into that.

You sound like an awesome woman and your family is very lucky to have you.

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  • Lillith_Lovelace
  • 1 Points
  • 00:30:55, 25 October

Yes, it is a whole different conversation. Thank you for the kind words

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  • swindlerrzz
  • 0 Points
  • 01:46:46, 25 October

"2edgy4u5eva"

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  • Goatsac
  • -13 Points
  • 01:11:03, 25 October

Feminists and their emasculated castrated pseudomale sycophants fucking sicken me to no end.

We want equality! Cool, you should register for selective service. You're oppressing me!

Women should be treated the same as men! Cool, if you hit me, I will break your face. You're a violent misogynist!

We should share equal responsibility at home! Cool, you mow the lawn and change the oil in my car, I'll bathe the kids and make dinner. I was lying, doing stuff is hard!

Fuck feminists, in their ass, without consent.

Honestly, as much as these harpies fixate on rape, I'm willing to wager it's a fetish for them. Some strong man breaks into their home, forcefully fucks them in the ass. Their vaginae hurt too much for normal intercourse to be a part of this fantasy. When he's done, he pats their ass and points them to the laundry room, where he left a basket full of dirty clothing for them to make right,

Don't forget the fabric softener, whore, Daddy likes his jeans soft.

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  • swindlerrzz
  • 10 Points
  • 01:22:13, 25 October

http://www.helpguide.org/mental/angermanagementcontroltipstechniques.htm

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  • Goatsac
  • 4 Points
  • 01:27:37, 25 October

Good retort. Glad to see SRS is here.

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  • swindlerrzz
  • -1 Points
  • 01:37:03, 25 October

Just trying to help. If you're not a troll (doubtful), I honestly think you should talk to a professional. Not just for the sake of people around you.

I sincerely wish you the best of luck.

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  • Goatsac
  • 0 Points
  • 01:49:11, 25 October

I suppose I can accept such a sentiment. Honestly, I think you're just being a judgmental cunt. On the off chance your heart bleeds just that much, I wish you the best in your endeavors, as well.

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  • swindlerrzz
  • -2 Points
  • 01:56:14, 25 October

I just empathize with how it must feel bad to carry around that much anger. Hatred harms you just as much as those you hate.

I promise that you would feel better if you could let go of your anger. Easier said than done, I'm afraid.

PM me if anything I've said strikes a chord, if not good luck on your journey.

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  • Goatsac
  • 1 Points
  • 02:13:15, 25 October

I appreciate the sentiment, I honestly do. You know, twenty-one years now, frequenting the internet, I've sullied so many others with my self-loathing, with my emotional deficiencies. I've waited here, so long, for you, for you to understand me.

I have to ask you, a/s/l, and regardless of the answer, could you PM me a pic of those nips?

I love you.

EDIT - Fuck, I'm old. Twenty-one years now on the interwebz.

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  • swindlerrzz
  • 0 Points
  • 02:31:16, 25 October

At first I thought you said you were twenty-one and I couldn't believe a twenty-one year could be so damn salty. Makes more sense.

Seeing as you're almost definitely a homophobe, I feel like I have a duty to tell you I'm a man. Wouldn't want you to get yourself all worked up over the though of my hairy nips.

I think we're at an impasse here, so this is my final goodbye. Adios.

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  • Goatsac
  • 2 Points
  • 02:54:29, 25 October

Whoa, dude, calling me a homophobe, after I made it clear I wanted pics of your nips, regardless of your gender? Seriously?

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  • Goatsac
  • 1 Points
  • 02:57:58, 25 October

Thinking about this, fuck you, you stupid cunt. A man, on the internet kinda starts to open to you, flirt with you a bit, and you call him a homophobe? I hope your cat gets feline leukemia.

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  • Catness_NeverClean
  • 1 Points
  • 06:49:04, 25 October

And you have a wife?!!!! HOW DOES ANY WOMAN PUT UP WITH YOU.

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  • CUDDLEMASTER2
  • -3 Points
  • 03:14:45, 25 October

The real battle is between the rich and the poor, not males and females.

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  • [deleted]
  • -8 Points
  • 02:18:30, 25 October

yourright

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  • swindlerrzz
  • 15 Points
  • 02:40:43, 25 October

Feminists make girls look bad in the same way that the black civil rights movement in the 60s/70s made black people look bad.

Also you are aware it's completely possible to be a feminist and not a woman?

I think you have a warped view of feminism.

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  • poor_yorick
  • -1 Points
  • 06:59:23, 25 October

Wait, how did the Civil Rights movement of the 60/70s make black people look bad? I mean, I guess I could sort of see it if you were talking about the Black Panthers. But the rest of it? "Ugh, those black people, always staging nonviolent protests and shit. GOD."

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  • swindlerrzz
  • 0 Points
  • 07:17:57, 25 October

Many white people at the time were really upset that black people were fighting against the system that had disenfranchised them which was why the civil rights movement was needed in the first place.

What I meant was that people who have privilege will always resent when their privilege is attacked and will look for ways to demean, dehumanize, and discredit people who threaten their position even more than they are already are.

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  • Derpryft
  • 0 Points
  • 07:28:45, 25 October

SRS cancer please stop.

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  • swindlerrzz
  • 1 Points
  • 07:35:56, 25 October

You started it

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  • midnightsbane04
  • 14 Points
  • 02:23:33, 25 October

Except that's not what Feminism is. What you described is a militant group of man-haters bitching about anything they can. Feminism is about egalitarianism. The only reason it wasn't called egalitarianism is that it's roots are based on the beliefs and efforts of hard-working and wonderful women that fought with all their power to change and evolve the perceptions of what proper "roles" are for women.

Source: A dude (even though I don't see why it matters for this topic) that took a. Women's studies course and found it extremely insightful and fun.

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  • HIGH5VOLTAGE
  • 5 Points
  • 03:34:05, 25 October

As a girl, I think that you should stop spreading around misinformation on topics that you obviously don't understand.

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  • GARBAGEDAYY
  • 2 Points
  • 06:42:49, 25 October

Ugh, another one? For fucks sake, why are you judging the actions of a few bad people who use feminism, to define a whole movement? Aren't people smarter than this generalizing bullshit? I don't know what the average age is around here but I figured you grew out of "one is like that so ALL are like that" crap at, I dunno, 15?

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  • jorobo_ou
  • 2 Points
  • 03:37:42, 25 October

Would you tell somebody who researched lung cancer that they should just research "cancer"? What about workers' rights, gay rights, or any other group? I mean, let's all just support "being cool"

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  • ManualOverDose
  • -4 Points
  • 05:08:52, 25 October

feminists

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  • DrowningInFeces
  • -8 Points
  • 02:23:31, 25 October

Well, unfortunately, they seem to have some kind of sway in politics/judicial system as well as general influence over society as a whole. So they are actually doing damage

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  • swindlerrzz
  • 19 Points
  • 02:42:10, 25 October

They are doing damage to society in the same sense that abolishing slavery did damage to society.

Power structures being destroyed sucks if you're the one with the power.

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  • Goatsac
  • -8 Points
  • 03:22:57, 25 October

My wife just wanted to remind you that she has tits, doesn't hate all things with a penis, and she's not a fan of little male sycophantic feminazi white knights.

Just saying. We both think you can take a "knight" off.

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  • swindlerrzz
  • 11 Points
  • 03:41:42, 25 October

Cool story bro! I'm so bummed that your wife doesn't like me. That pretty much ruins my day ;(

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  • Derpryft
  • -6 Points
  • 07:27:14, 25 October

Congratulations your comment has drawn the attention of the SRS downvote brigade.

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  • nothinglikeagoodpie
  • 4 Points
  • 08:10:12, 25 October

106 points. Such brigade.