Well my "Introducing _____" series was deleted by the mods (self.nfl)

{nfl}

272 ups - 96 downs = 176 votes

Looks like I will have to put them in the Friday Showcase thread from now on. Thanks for the support for however short it was! See you guys on Friday!

273 comments submitted at 22:45:06 on Nov 12, 2013 by happysadfaced

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  • CiscoCertified
  • -1 Points
  • 23:37:45, 12 November

I explained below, but I will explain to here as well. These posts should go into the Friday /r/nfl Showcase Thread. Here are a few previous threads.

/r/NFLFandom and /r/NFLOffTopic are specific subs for this type of material.

This has also been defined in our posting guidelines.

/r/NFL Posting guidelines

The following submissions/posts will be removed:

  • Fan related posts - We will be removing posts related to pics or video you shot from the stands, anything related to merchandise, your fan cave, fan art, discussions on a player's personal life, drinking games, screenshots, etc. These posts will be redirected towards /r/NFLFandom and /r/NFLOffTopic.
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  • DeVilleBT
  • 23 Points
  • 00:46:13, 13 November

How is that post less relevant to football than the weekly Haiku Threads?

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  • StopTheRun
  • 16 Points
  • 00:38:33, 13 November

I have no problem with this; in fact I wish more fluff was removed to other subs. There are more and more offseason-type threads here now - twitter info, ridiculous what-if scenario discussions, and other filler-like posts.

I want discussions about factual information or posts where I can learn something new. I'm fairly new to football (~ 3-4 yrs) and there are loads of things I don't understand or would like to learn. I used to come here and see interesting discussions that were completely over my head. Now it seems to be filled with info I get from team stream and the latest NFL scandal information.

Just my 2 cents.

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  • Bronan_the_Brobarian
  • 2 Points
  • 03:02:20, 13 November

JJWATT VISIT KID IN HOSPITAL

RICHARD SHERMAN OPENS MOUTH

That's how it was last season, it'll be like this regardless of what the mods do/don't.

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  • Decker87
  • 1 Points
  • 03:22:32, 13 November

> I want discussions about factual information or posts where I can learn something new.

Have you considered starting threads or asking questions? I noticed you haven't posted anything on /r/nfl under this account. I, and I'm sure many others would gladly engage in more factual or educational discussions.

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  • dmun
  • -1 Points
  • 02:33:23, 13 November

>twitter info, ridiculous what-if scenario discussions, and other filler-like posts

Twitter info is legit as any other source-- ask the APA

As for the rest, what? You want zero discussion on r/nfl? I get the dumb stuff being frustrating but damn, you guys are going as content nazi as the mods are.

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  • PerCC
  • 52 Points
  • 00:02:44, 13 November

I'd say that people disagree with you removing the post, but the down votes are telling you that for me.

The "discussion" on his personal life would probably be more relevant and preferred than other official /r/NFL posts, as has been described on this thread. There are up votes and down votes for a reason - and I think people would like this little series to further get to know the guys on the field.

IMO this is not NFL fandom; this is not a collection of jerseys, pictures of a game, or a picture with your favorite athlete. It's not off topic either. It's a cool little snap shot into their life, and certainly a nice refresher from the "Whose line is it anyways" posts which most certainly contains discussions on a player's personal life.

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  • realnigga4lyfe
  • 71 Points
  • 00:07:00, 13 November

I don't understand why everyone demanded for the mods to explain themselves and then proceeded to downvote the mods.

Come on guys, you are all better than that

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  • jckgat
  • 77 Points
  • 00:15:28, 13 November

I'm assuming it's the community telling the mods that they believe the explanation is bullshit.

And frankly allowing the proliferation of memes to the state they are in now, in other words everywhere, while removing content specific to actual players and considering that good moderation, I can understand. This sub has gone to shit while memes are everywhere. And in fact, your damn image is one of them.

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  • jesusinabottle
  • 6 Points
  • 00:50:15, 13 November

dam

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  • Domino_Raindrop
  • 8 Points
  • 01:08:05, 13 November

By Cisqo's reasoning, your comment should have 1000 upvotes in a few hours.

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  • jesusinabottle
  • 4 Points
  • 01:16:46, 13 November

dam

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  • CiscoCertified
  • -4 Points
  • 01:25:09, 13 November

That's for posts, not comments.

However, I see where you are coming from.

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  • Beerfueled
  • 22 Points
  • 00:14:47, 13 November

Exactly, even if one disagrees with this thread being canceled, downvoting a guy for giving an explanation seems dumb. It just means it'll get buried and more people will come here asking why it's happening.

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  • RamsesToo
  • 17 Points
  • 00:57:31, 13 November

As Reddit's user base exploded, the purpose of the upvote and downvote function (which was already on shaky ground) completely disintegrated from its original purpose. Upvoting comments that are relevant or that promote the discussion (whether or not they aligned with your view) and downvoting distractions from the discussion became "upvote = agree, downvote = disagree."

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  • Beerfueled
  • 16 Points
  • 01:03:04, 13 November

Yeah and in this case it's even worse because it's not only 'downvoting out of disagreement', but also downvoting answers people asked for to the point that they're hidden. Counter-productive, really.

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  • Lobo_Marino
  • 8 Points
  • 01:09:02, 13 November

Remember downvoting is equal to "Fuck you for your opinion"

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  • Beerfueled
  • 5 Points
  • 01:15:17, 13 November

Haha seriously, in this thread it really looks like that. Not only that, but even 'fuck the answer to a question I posed, if I don't like it'.

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  • iamtheraptor
  • 7 Points
  • 00:33:45, 13 November

Plus people should upvote it just so it's easier to see.

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  • asatele1
  • 5 Points
  • 00:32:24, 13 November

I understand the demand for the mods to explain themselves but the downvoting, true, is unnecessary.

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  • NoonanZero
  • 4 Points
  • 00:18:40, 13 November

It's to show that the community thinks the rule or explanation is bullshit.

Which it is.

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  • champagne_champion
  • 16 Points
  • 00:09:57, 13 November

But no one goes to those subreddits or those threads and people found his post (which he undoubtedly put at least 1 hour into) interesting. Why can't you admit you are wrong and let him post them here?

Here are some posts on the front page that are page that are less interesting than what he posted:

  • Week 11 complaint, wager, and predictions thread. Why not put those together if you are wanting to do some extra policing. Wagers and predictions are so similar they're almost the same thing.

  • There are 3 threads that that aren't necessary if people take a look at the standings: "With the Dolphins, Titans, and Chargers losses, the Jets now have sole possession of the 6th seed in the AFC coming off their bye", "Week 11 NFL Draft Order: Falcons Only One Game From #1 Pick", and "Animated GIF of 2013 W/L Records through Week 10".

  • Then there are 2 different power rankings threads (3 if you count the mathmatically calculated week 10 rankings) on the front page, which are essentially pointless unless you believe people know what they're talking about. Want the most accurate power rankings? Check the Vegas odds on each team to win the Super Bowl.

  • The what team scares you thread is climbing up to the front page also. Why doesn't that one go in NFL Fandom?

I just don't see why you'd want to take away a thread that a lot of people are really enjoying. And it isn't even offensive, seems pretty pointless.

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  • CiscoCertified
  • -3 Points
  • 00:12:42, 13 November

You can be one of those people that start going to those subreddits.

/r/nfl started as a small sub at one time.

> http://www.reddit.com/r/nfl/comments/1qhhrx/whatteamabsolutelyscaresthebejesusout_of/

This team is football related. What team scares you each time you play them, it is simple as that.

The complaint, wager, and prediction threads are all who is going to win the win.

As for the upvote system. It is flawed toward posts like these.

Do to the current system, the first 10 upvotes count as much as the next 100. This is why pictures such as these are upvoted so quickly and always make the front page. They are quick and easy to view. They are also easy to upvote.

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  • champagne_champion
  • 9 Points
  • 00:31:51, 13 November

> /r/nfl started as a small sub at one time.

That's a good point. I think if people continued to post quality stuff, like what he had posted to one of those subs it could be interesting. The trouble is if you go there now the posts are extremely uninteresting. If I was him I'd be kind of insulted, it's like go play on the Fisher Price goal with the 6 year olds.

It's kind of a catch 22 but I don't think very many people are going to go there because the content is pretty boring.

> This team is football related.

I feel like the players are football related too. At least as much as Brandon Marshall calling the Lions little brothers is football related. I think it's pretty cool to remember that every player is a different person with a different personality.

> The complaint, wager, and prediction threads are all who is going to win the win.

I think I'm confused by your dialect lol, but those posts have been a staple of the subreddit for awhile I just thought I'd point out how similar they are if we wanted to find a spot for him to keep doing this.

Thanks for the reply though, and sorry for blowing up your inbox with my first post 3 times accidentally put it in the wrong spot!

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  • Heelincal
  • 7 Points
  • 00:15:21, 13 November

Just pointing out that going negative is probably indicative of something...

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  • questionablex
  • 22 Points
  • 23:40:15, 12 November

I don't give a shit about what players post on facebook, so thanks for keeping those things to /r/NFLFandom.

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  • CiscoCertified
  • 18 Points
  • 23:41:20, 12 November

We are trying to keep the subreddit NFL football specific. Not NFL TMZ tabloid specific.

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  • Seanehhs
  • 37 Points
  • 23:59:57, 12 November

You're losing them mod, you're losing them.

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  • hamsterwheel
  • 10 Points
  • 00:30:22, 13 November

god the subtle changes in his facial features is excellent. Great performance by Pheonix.

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  • Justryingtofocus
  • -2 Points
  • 01:04:19, 13 November

Quick! Say something related to football or the mods will delete your comment!

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  • MisallocatedRacism
  • 3 Points
  • 02:38:44, 13 November

I wonder if he can play running back?

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  • hamsterwheel
  • 1 Points
  • 03:02:51, 13 November

he'd be joaquin all over the defense.

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  • higherbrow
  • 1 Points
  • 03:13:20, 13 November

There's a big difference between posts and comments. I don't understand why this is a big deal. The mods are pointing out that there is a subreddit specifically for that type of post, but this isn't that subreddit. If you like this type of post, no one is telling you they aren't allowed; you just have to subscribe to the subreddit where they belong.

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  • Justryingtofocus
  • 1 Points
  • 03:15:18, 13 November

....It was just a simple joke meant to satirize both sides of the issue... check my profile for my actual thoughts on the situation, they're a bit more nuanced.

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  • Wassh
  • 12 Points
  • 01:13:26, 13 November

Okay, from now on I'll report AMAs, Whose Line, Shit Announcers Say, threads about arrests, anything that's not X's and O's. Thanks!

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  • NOTW_116
  • 9 Points
  • 00:55:18, 13 November

Wouldn't a players AMA be more about their personal life than just NFL football stuff? And would those thus be over at /r/NFLOffTopic? Or is that just, "This is objectively popular enough and makes the sub and mods look good so we're going to keep it here." This is a legitimate question, btw.

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  • CiscoCertified
  • -3 Points
  • 01:26:11, 13 November

We don't know what our users are going to ask and what players are going to answer.

We would hope that it would be strictly football related.

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  • IAmADuckSizeHorseAMA
  • 2 Points
  • 02:43:04, 13 November

I appreciate that, I really do. I just wish this wasn't lumped in with those as I found them interesting. I can see why you're doing it, I just don't like it I guess.

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  • beckett360
  • 3 Points
  • 00:42:18, 13 November

Don't we have nfl.com for NFL specifics?

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  • Bronan_the_Brobarian
  • 1 Points
  • 03:04:43, 13 November

NFL.com is all Tabloids

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  • PenguinBallZ
  • 2 Points
  • 00:14:31, 13 November

It's alright Cisco. I still support you.

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  • ImLosingMyEdge
  • -1 Points
  • 02:24:34, 13 November

fucking bullshit. you embody the shitty over-entitled internet nerd mod.

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  • cubedG
  • 0 Points
  • 02:36:34, 13 November

You actually seem like the more entitled one. It's the internet, get over it.

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  • CiscoCertified
  • -2 Points
  • 02:27:39, 13 November

Sorry you feel that way.

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  • illegal_deagle
  • 1 Points
  • 00:06:03, 13 November

That's great for you, but I wish the community were allowed to decide. Pretty sure that's what the voting is for.

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  • g4h4
  • 4 Points
  • 02:05:35, 13 November

Apparently CiscoCertified has been removing a lot of posts in r/Seahawks too without explaining why

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  • El_PEZ
  • 1 Points
  • 02:11:32, 13 November

Because we fucking need it. How about 5 more "OMG WHO DO WE ROOT FOR: SAINTS OR 9ERS!!!???" posts? That would be great.

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  • g4h4
  • 3 Points
  • 02:22:17, 13 November

Those were definitely annoying, but I don't think that's what this guy was talking about

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  • El_PEZ
  • 0 Points
  • 02:29:14, 13 November

That guy is just incapable of reading rules.

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  • dred1367
  • 2 Points
  • 01:01:43, 13 November

Sorry ciscocertified, you did not complete the process of the catch so I'm taking your moderation powers away.

(If only I had that power...)

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  • iamtheraptor
  • 2 Points
  • 23:42:11, 12 November

Following the rules. Cisco is 2013's Hitler.

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  • archduke_troll
  • 2 Points
  • 23:54:04, 12 November

*Hitner

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  • blair9123
  • -3 Points
  • 00:31:38, 13 November

Who gives a shit when it's posted? Reddit is user driven, stop ignoring this fact.