Sad hypergamy in action. (self.TheRedPill)

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EDIT. Ok, I see why this was downvoted like hell. "Sad hypergamy" should not be "sad." It just is what it is and I need to accept it. I'm a newb to red-pill - swallowed the pill 9 days ago and this post I guess is kind of a field report. I am learning to see and my eyes are stinging like crazy. So I'm going through an adjustment period and learning process. A bird being pushed out of the nest. This post might not have done shit for the community, but your replies have definitely helped me out. The good news is, is the chances of me seeing the chick from this story once again are 100%.

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Some dude at a night club (goth club) was fucking with me. He had a chick and I didn't. Third time he fucked with me we were on the dance floor during an aggressive song. He had long hair, so do I. I said, "Ok, MOSH pit!" Sometimes that shit happens at goth clubs - most people are ready for it. I shoved his ass. He instantly fell to the floor. I picked him up and was like, "Don't you fucking MOSH dude?" Pushed him in front of me and was like, "Mosh, fucker!" Pushed him a couple more times. He was clearly a poseur and just DIDN'T get it. And at that point I felt ashamed. Even though he'd been messing with me, his long hair indicated to me he was a least supposed to be a metal brother and here he couldn't hold his own in front of goths. SAD, SAD, SAD as far as the metal world goes.

So the hypergamy... His chick, a hot slut, she later on spies me at the bar just chillin. She's with her dude but decides to stumble my way and make signals like she's offering an olive branch? No idea what the signal was supposed to look like. But she looked confused. But clearly I just out-alpha'ed her BF by a good 5 or 6 miles or more. She had the look of like, "Shit! I'm with the wrong dude! Help!"

I played gentleman and just gave her the stink eye. But everything I've read on /r/TheRedPill completely predicted her reaction to me out-alpha-ing her BF and I just felt bad about it. I couldn't just steal this dude's GF just because he was giant douche. But it was sad to me that the opportunity seemed to present itself because that's how his GF is biologically wired. Not to white-knight her or anything, but red pill theory clearly says that chicks can be like that and you can expect it.

While it was sad, awkward, and embarrassing, at least I got my point across to that dude and theoretically he'll think twice about fucking around with me again. He provokes me and I'm not going to hesitate.

Fellow redpillians, have you ever seen a blue pill beta ever cough up a GF quite that easily before? I kind of feel sick about the whole thing. I guess I got morals? Sad.

22 comments submitted at 10:32:33 on Jul 28, 2013 by moov_atom12

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  • thejohnnyguitar
  • 9 Points
  • 17:05:37, 28 July

This whole FR made me cringe.

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  • Captain_of_the_ship
  • 6 Points
  • 17:32:11, 28 July

I'm calling troll - reeks of the phone/facebook post.

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  • TRPsubmitter
  • 12 Points
  • 13:06:49, 28 July

>I couldn't just steal this dude's GF just because he was giant douche.

I'm shocked. What better reason could you possibly have then? You should have been on her for the very exact reason that he was a douche. Stop white knighting! She is a big girl and can make her own decision of who to sleep with each night and when she wants to sleep with someone new. And he's an adult and can learn to improve his value to keep a girl...just like all of us have to. Fair game.

>But it was sad to me that the opportunity seemed to present itself because that's how his GF is biologically wired.

If it makes you sad that girls are hypergamous and will like you more than their current bfs because you demonstrated your higher value, then you aren't fully Red Pill yet...because that exact fact is what defines the philosophy of the Red Pill!

Keep on taking advantage of each and every opportunity. You are projecting your own sense of loyalty onto some guy you just got finished abusing on the dance floor! haha You don't want to steal some guy's gf because you are imagining "what if that guy was me?". Keep on with it (goth chicks can be hot) and next time, pull the trigger!

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  • fuk_offe
  • 3 Points
  • 14:29:26, 28 July

Should have fucked her OP. The douche would learn.

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  • moov_atom12
  • 1 Points
  • 18:23:41, 28 July

Holy shit.

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  • moov_atom12
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  • 18:17:39, 28 July

> then you aren't fully Red Pill yet

You are probably right. I mean I'm literally 9 days old. Even Neo had to go through an adaption phase when he got out of the Matrix. I mean there is still shock, surprise, and very real pangs of nausea.

>You are projecting your own sense of loyalty onto some guy you just got finished abusing on the dance floor! haha You don't want to steal some guy's gf because you are imagining "what if that guy was me?". Keep on with it (goth chicks can be hot) and next time, pull the trigger!

Damn, I've never read anything so directly empowering to me in all my life. I thank you for being so direct and being brutally honest - but I guess that's what this is all about, isn't it?

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  • TRPsubmitter
  • 2 Points
  • 01:06:39, 29 July

Totally dude. That would have been an epic night. You just push this guy down multiple times and steal his gf while he is totally emasculated. Hey it takes two to tango and it's not like you were forcing the girl to do anything...she probably went home disappointed too!

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  • Trolly-McTroll
  • 2 Points
  • 17:21:47, 28 July

This was the hardest part of swallowing the red pill for me. I grew up hearing that all men just think with their dicks. I picked girls that might be lower value than I could stretch to because of personality. It's gut wrenching to find out that no matter how safe or nice a girl you pick she still has these instincts. Hypergamy is women's way of thinking with their vaginas. There are no good girls out their that you can just be partners with. They will only stick around if what you're selling is better than the rest of the local market or are lower value and secure about it.

> I kind of feel sick about the whole thing. I guess I got morals?

It's enough to make you resent women for a while until you learn to accept it. Women that get fat have always known that their boyfriends will lose interest in them but men have forgotten that if they get weak (beta) then their girlfriends will lose interest. It's hard to accept not being able to have a completely equal LTR where you can be let your guard down. As a man you have to make it like a father-daughter style relationship rather than a mother-son one. It's rage inducing to think that men have the same or even more powerful emotions than women but are not safe to express them. The corporal can hardly cry in front of the PFC's....

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  • moov_atom12
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  • 20:23:14, 28 July

>Hypergamy is women's way of thinking with their vaginas.

Amazing line, right there.

I should probably arrange my condo into a woman-processing factory. I've been watching 2 movies off and on, over and over and over again since maybe 1996. Both of them are Humphrey Bogart movies. The Big Sleep and Casablanca. I've loved the shit out of these movies even though for a blue piller they're a little bit "campy." Campy because I didn't understand how Humphrey Bogart was the way that he was. His roles in both completely embodied red pill. This line:

"Well, that's the way it goes. One in, one out. Sam, if it's December 1941 in Casablanca, what time is it in New York?"

>There are no good girls out their that you can just be partners with.

At the end of the movie Casablanca, my hero let's Ilsa get on the plane with Victor Laslow and I guess he goes back to being red-pill. ("Louie, I think this is the beginning of a beautiful friendship.") Blue-pill me was all like, "Damn! He lost the girl but he's all noble and really cares about the world and shit." And beta-blue-pill me was like, "Why the hell is he messing around with Ilsa if she's with Victor now? He should let it go, but then I guess we wouldn't have this fun movie." And now red pill me is like, "So... he goes back to business as usual being an even bigger badass." Because that's the way it goes: one in, one out.

And now I think of THE MANY times where some chick at the club said she had a BF but he wasn't there or she was married but her S.O. was living overseas. I could tell when and if they were up for having me as a side dish but I'd always back away. I never saw it for the simple math and biology that it was. I need to start seeing the opportunities in front of me and seizing them. I should also practice my condom opening skills.

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  • Stopher
  • 4 Points
  • 15:59:39, 28 July

It just sounds like you were jealous at a bar and decided to shove a guy. I have no tolerance for people who start fights because they don't know how to talk to women.

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  • vengefully_yours
  • -1 Points
  • 17:06:05, 28 July

Never been in a mosh pit, have you? Im not goth, and would look out of place as an old guy in the club he speaks of, but I know what the hell he is talking about. Been in them at Godsmack and Rammstein concerts, falling down like that is a hardcore pussy demonstration.

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  • Captain_of_the_ship
  • 1 Points
  • 17:31:31, 28 July

It was a dance floor at a club. Sounds like someone got their panties in a twist and lashed out.

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  • vengefully_yours
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  • 17:33:05, 28 July

Once again, you havent been in one of those clubs, have you?

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  • Captain_of_the_ship
  • 2 Points
  • 17:38:51, 28 July

No, that's true and I admit I might be misunderstanding the dynamic. But I'm not seeing why repeatedly pushing some one to the ground is a desirable course of action.

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  • vengefully_yours
  • 0 Points
  • 18:11:22, 28 July

Because that is what they do in a mosh. They run into me, shove me and provoke me to shove them back any time I get near one. I am a big guy and they know I can hurl them across the floor easily. Its violent and they want to get shoved hard, they want to be bashed into other people and objects. Its the mindset of the people who go there.

If the kid just fell on his ass after the first shove, he is a poser, just dresses up and play acts. He is a candy ass wimp that likes to play the part, but has no substance to back it up. If you go to a place like that, you have to be ready for that kind of thing, because it is the mindset of the people there.

You shouldnt go there, you might get hurt. :)

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  • Captain_of_the_ship
  • 1 Points
  • 20:59:37, 28 July

OK, got it, I didn't know that that's how it all works. Makes sense now. Thanks.

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  • moov_atom12
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  • 18:19:10, 28 July

No, he provoked me. Re-read above, I thought I made that clear.

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  • Stopher
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  • 22:35:40, 28 July

I dunno. You said he provoked you but there's no detail.

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  • moov_atom12
  • 1 Points
  • 01:12:12, 29 July

He playfully grabbed my nipples first time around. He playfully grabbed my ass the 2nd time around. I thought a dirty look and my body language would be enough to signal he was out of line. He didn't seem to get it though. So the 3rd time around he starts dancing next to me like he's mocking me and getting ready to mess with me again. The song was pretty aggressive so I was like "ok, mosh pit time." It's not like I punched him or cheap shotted him. To me a hard shove towards a metal or punk rock guy is a legit dance move if the music is aggressive. I honestly did not expect him to be that surprised or fall down. Maybe he was too intoxicated? I couldn't say. I used standard mosh pit etiquette and picked him up when I saw that he fell. I wasn't gouging out his eyes or anything. I was not thinking about hitting-on or stealing his chick.

I sometimes look androgynous at goth night because that's how I roll at goth night and every now and again some hetero dude doesn't get it. Gay men and the occasional transsexual are always cool and respectful but every now and again a hetero dude comes along and thinks he's got a right to tease me. Lots of people look weird or androgynous or different at goth night because it's goth night - it is highly unwise to be a dick toward anybody about their fashion sense - even if you honestly think they have bad fashion sense. A dude isn't going to dress his particular goth style without a plan to give unnecessary hecklers a beat down. Hell, even if you see a dude in a dress or with his bare ass hanging out of some chaps, deal with it and be cool like you've seen that shit all the time. Because you don't want to be the one dude who got a beating from that guy. There's a good chance you're A) gonna lose badly, and B) get kicked out of the club for good, C) instantly lose whatever chick you brought.

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  • Stopher
  • 1 Points
  • 02:27:46, 29 July

If he's grabbing you than you're right. That's f'd up. I kinda wonder if he was gay or bi and thought he was putting moves on you. As a straight guy I have never had the urge to grab another mans nipples. I guess it's just not my scene.

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  • moov_atom12
  • 1 Points
  • 04:53:50, 29 July

It's not a lot of people's scene. There's a lot of weird shit.

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  • AlwaysLateToThreads
  • 1 Points
  • 16:45:04, 28 July

What's sadder is you didn't take this guys girl.